Manowar's Hungarian Weapons - Frommer Pistols

Frommer Stop Baby Model

Manufactured by Fegyver és Gépgyár Részvénytársaság, Budapest, 1912-18. ('Fegyvergyár' or 'F.G.GY.')
Manufactured by Fémáru Fegyver és Gépgyár Részvénytársaság, Budapest, 1919-29. ('Fegyvergyár' or 'Fémáru Fegyver és Gépgyár')
Type: recoil operated automatic pistol
Chambering: 7.65x17mm Frommer Long (.32acp loaded hot), 9mm Frommer (.380acp loaded hot), 9mm Short
Muzzle velocity: 280m/s [920 fps] (7.65)
Length overall: 123mm
Weight: 500g
Barrel: 55mm rifled, 4 grooves, right hand twist
Magazine: 6-round (7.65mm) or 5-rd (9mm) detachable box

This is a smaller version of the Frommer Stop, primarily intended as a 7.65mm pocket pistol for the civilian market. The checkered grips are marked 'FB'. All parts are interchangeable with the Stop, except barrel, mag, grips, grip safety and spring guide.

The Frommer Baby was made alongside the Stop from 1912-29.

The Frommer Baby was also manufactured in 9mm (.380acp). Note the difference in the legend. It was never made in 6.35mm, as sometimes claimed. Only the Frommer Liliput was manufactured in 6.35mm.

There are some examples of 'Babies' with no legend, no serial and no markings.

Examples of Frommer Stop pistols cut down to 'Baby' size can be found. The slide legend on these pistols are from the Stop, without the 'Fegyvergyar' word.

A Hungarian newspaper advertisement cca. 1914, translated:


The Military Rifle

In a Vest Pocket

The 7.65 and 9mm Frommer
Baby Pistol

Large caliber, 6-shot vest pocket
weapon with military rifle type
locking mechanism. Product of the
Fegyver és Gépgyár R.T., Budapest.
Available in all fine gun stores.

All Frommers are sequentially serialized, started with Model 1901 and continued through all Stop model changes. Due to lack of available data, these are estimated approximate dates and serial numbers:

1912 -   6000-12000
1913 -  12000-18000  (12370)
1914 -  18000-30000  (23376-26789) (21369 9mm)
1915 -  30000-55000  (41199-42641)
1916 -  55000-133000
1917 - 133000-208050
1918 - 208050-275000
1919 - 275000-275000
1920 - 275000-300000
1921 - 300000-327000 
1922 - 327000-335000
1923 - 335000-340000
1924 - 340000-345000
1925 - 345000-350000
1926 - 350000-355000  (350609-353553)
1927 - 355000-360000
1928 - 360000-363000
1929 - 363000-364000
Please, send us your Frommer Baby serial number data, so we can correct these serial number ranges.